Oh, I Like That

Great Gift Ideas That Aren't From Big Box Retailers

Episode Summary

We asked, you answered! Thanks to our listeners, we’ve got a bunch of great ideas for gifts to buy from independent sellers this season.

Episode Notes

Last year we shared our thoughts and feelings on gift-giving and how to be great at it. This year we’re coming at you with more gift ideas, plus a bunch of places to shop for them that aren’t Amazon. OILT listeners sent us a ton of awesome ideas for things to buy from independent shops and sellers, all of which make great gifts. (And we also threw in a few of our own.) We think you’ll be able to find stuff for a lot of the people on your list this year, while supporting independent sellers and getting a jump on that unpredictable supply chain!

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This episode was produced by Rachel and Sally and edited by Lucas Nguyen. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. MJ Brodie transcribed this episode. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod.

Episode Transcription

Rachel: Welcome to Oh I Like That, a podcast about things we like and occasionally things we don't. I'm Rachel Wilkerson Miller.

Sally: And I'm Sally Tamarkin. I think Rachel, because we say “occasionally things we don't,” and I feel like we haven't really talked that much about things we don't like, so I think maybe we should just do a run of episodes where we just list things that we dislike strongly.

Rachel: Yeah, just us reading them back and forth in monotone.

Sally: Just back and forth. That's it.

Rachel: Yeah, just a list of grievances. [Laughs] I think that would do really well.

Sally: Okay, so we'll compile that list of grievances and we'll be sure to release that soon, but in the meantime, Rachel, let's do a vibe check. What's the vibe right now?

Rachel: Vibe is good. My vibe is new job. Because I am starting my new job on Monday, I recently put in notice at Vice after two years, and I'm headed to Vox to help launch a new section that is dedicated to service journalism, so I'm really thrilled about it and just feeling very like first day of school, getting ready, excited about everything.

Sally: Hell yes, I'm so excited for you.

Rachel: Thank you.

Sally: I feel like I was riding in the side car of the job motorcycle you were driving, learning about the process and hearing how it was going, and I'm super excited for you. And I can't wait for all the things, all the awesome content that you produce and that we talk about on the show and then link to in the show notes, I'm sure.

Rachel: Let's hope so. Yeah, I'm really excited. I think it's going to be great. I'm really excited about the team that I'm joining, and I think Vox does really good work and just yeah, really good. Good vibes all around there.

Sally: Yeah, Vox rules, I'm psyched. Well, that's exciting.

Rachel: All right, Sally, what's your vibe today?

Sally: Rachel, my vibe can be described as the Philadelphia 76ers. Are you familiar with this professional basketball team?

Rachel: I learned of their existence two to three weeks ago. If you had asked me before that, I might have thought they were a football team. So I am now familiar with them, and I often think that the Sixers and the 76ers are different teams. But I appreciate that when I say Sixers or 76ers or a different number entirely, you know that I'm trying to refer to your home team.

Sally: 100%, and I totally appreciate your honesty. And I would say that a couple of weeks ago, I knew the Sixers were a basketball team, but knew nothing else about them. In the last two weeks, I've gone from doesn't follow sports to being completely... I feel like obsessed isn't the right word, but it kind of is. I'm really into the Sixers now. Part of it is that sometimes you just need a new thing to watch on screen.

Rachel: Totally, yeah.

Sally: Part of it is that watching basketball is fun, it turns out. Yeah, so I've gotten really into it. I have to say that I don't think I possess the personality trait that is going to make me particularly happy if they win and sad if they lose. I saw a shirt on Instagram in my feed that said, "I just hope both teams are having a good time," and I think that kind of sums up my feeling about it. But it is really, really fun to watch the Sixers and when there's a home team to root for, that's a good time. So I've been spending a lot of time paying attention to that. I'm in pretty deep Rachel. I'm reading subreddits.

Rachel: Right, okay.

Sally: Yeah. I subscribe to a basketball newsletter, which doesn't tell you -- that isn't because I'm so into basketball. That's because I tend to go hard or go home when it comes to interests. I don't really have that many things I'm lightly interested in, I either don't care that it exists or it comprises 33% of my personality, so.

Rachel: Yeah, okay. Amazing.

Sally: So that's where I'm at.

Rachel: So you don't have a new job, but you kind of have a new internship.

Sally: I do, I do. And a new purpose and a new personality. And we'll see how long it lasts. It's really fun right now, but is that because it's novel to pay attention to this stuff for me, or is that because it's actually really fun and exciting? Who can say.

Rachel: Only time will tell, but I'm excited about this new interest, I feel like it's high time for some new obsessions. I've been beta testing some new obsessions myself, and I'm looking forward to -- it's feeling, again, it's that time of year where it's like, new school year, we're heading into the new years coming up, it's nice to take on a new personality around this time.

Sally: Yeah, well, and I can't wait for either the soft launch or the official launch of your new interests or personality, whenever that might happen.

Rachel: Thank you. I am thinking about a new personality for my new job on Monday.

Sally: Oh yeah.

Rachel: We'll see. I've got a few days to figure out what I want to, who I want to be.

Sally: You can be anyone, you can also be like, call me -- do you want to just come up with a cool nickname that you want everyone to call you?

Rachel: I would love that. I think it's incredible when people just give themselves a new nickname by force of will, I think that rocks, or just take on a stage name or a pseudonym or what. I just think that's so powerful.

Sally: I do too. I think it's amazing. I've often fantasised about writing under a pen name, like a cool pen name that sounds like it's a name from a lesbian pulp novel or a superhero comic from the 1950s. I think that'd be really cool. This was written by Kit Canon or something like that.

Rachel: Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, Beebo Brinker.

Sally: Beebo Brinker. Well, please report back if you choose a new nickname.

Rachel: I will let you know. [Laughs]

Sally: So before we proceed, we have an exciting announcement. We have merch.

Rachel: We have merch. It's time. We've done it.

Sally: It's time, we've done it. The really awesome Oh I Like That logo designed by Amber Seger is available from Teepublic.com on any item that you can imagine.

Rachel: Yeah. Truly.

Sally: Truly. I recently uploaded new art so that if people wanted to get a tapestry, it would be high enough res. So please do send us pictures of your Oh I Like That tapestries, I think they make really good decor.

Rachel: Yeah, I got a mug, I got some stickers, I've got a T-shirt in the mail, I'm really excited. The sticker looks great on a laptop, the logo is very cute and yeah, if you want to support the show that's a great way to do it.

Sally: Yeah, yeah, definitely. So we'll link to the store in the show notes, but I would recommend checking there a lot, because they do sales and promotions a lot. TeePublic does, we're not in charge of them, but whenever they have a sale, our stuff will be on sale. So definitely check that out. And listen, Oh I Like That merch makes great holiday gifts.

Rachel: Which is a great segue into our main segment.

Sally: Rachel, what's our main segment?

Rachel: We're talking about great gifts that aren't from chain stores, which you may be aware of if you've heard us putting out a call out. Because not only are we doing great gifts that aren't from chain stores, but this is a partially crowd-sourced episode, so people have been sending us in recommendations for the past couple of weeks, we have made a list of our faves, we got lots of great suggestions, so we're going to share some of our own and then share our listener recs which we're really excited about.

Sally: So this year, we are specifically focusing on gifts that you can get from independent sellers. I feel like over the last couple of years, we have more and more reasons to move our support away from places like Amazon and towards more independently owned places. And so everything that we're going to talk about is something you can get not at a chain store, and you should definitely get not a chain store and you should definitely also start shopping now, because I think with supply chain issues, I think the thing of waiting til the last minute to get gifts is not a thing you can really do anymore.

Rachel: I think that's right, but I also think that is another case for shopping locally/in person that you might find that your local bookstore is actually super well-stocked on things because they've been planning for this and this is their big time of year, or just because they have more options that you wouldn't have thought of. So I think that is another case for doing this. But yeah, I think in putting this list together, it forced me to think about things that presumably people across the United States, at least, could buy locally, and there's some really great recs and readers have really great recommendations too, so I think it's a really great constraint actually to have on gift giving.

Sally: Yeah, and I think also if you are in a place that doesn't have that many interesting local shops, you can shop in a place that's local to someone else. You're still supporting a local economy or an independent maker or whatever, so I definitely want to make it clear that this is not just for people who live in places with, for example, New York City or Philadelphia, with a bazillion places that are independently owned and filled to the brim with cute stuff.

Rachel: I think that's a really good point. And actually on that note, we're going to link to a couple of lists in the show notes that are, one is a list of black-owned independent bookstores, and another is LGBTQ-owned bookstores. And the queer bookstores at the very least, I know it's divided up, it's across the country, so they're organized by state. But I think that if you're trying to find a specific book and it's sold out at your local bookstore, or you don't have a local bookstore, why not just pick another one. It's still going to a good cause and, yeah, don't limit yourself. I think this is such a nice idea, or you could buy it local to the recipient too, if that makes more sense to you if you're out of state. So I think being creative and realizing that there are independently-owned stores everywhere, if not in your own backyard, is a really great way to head into the holidays.

Sally: Yes, and definitely make sure you listen to our episode from last year about gift giving, because we shared our grand unified theories of gift giving and receiving, and there are also lots of recommendations there for individual items that you can give, but we just talked more generally about how to be a good gift giver and a good gift recipient. So definitely check that out. We'll link to it in the show notes.

Rachel: Definitely. All right, Sally, should we do it?

Sally: Let's do it. Let's start with our picks. Rachel, you want to go first?

Rachel: Yeah, definitely. So speaking of new obsessions and hobbies, you are aware, as many people who follow me on Instagram are, that I have recently gotten really into the game Wingspan. And I don't know how to describe games because I don't really know anything about them, but it's a game that you play with cards and a little board and a bunch of little pieces. And if you want to give Wingspan as a gift, great, it's a lovely game. But that's actually not what I'm recommending. What I wanted to share is that when I was doing some research on it in general, I came across a review of replacement tokens and upgraded tokens, which I didn't even know was a thing, so I started poking around and found that if you go on Etsy and you type in 'wingspan tokens' you just get a huge wealth of options. So basically the game has a bunch of little pieces and it comes with little cardboard food tokens and there's five different types of food, and there's little plastic eggs in four different colors, and there is a little cardboard bird feeder that you put the dice into. So there's all these things, and people on Etsy have started making different versions of them. For example, the cardboard bird feeder, you can replace with a laser-cut wood one or you could have it personalized with people's names. So the game is played with little wooden cubes, every player gets eight of these little wooden cubes. I don't think the colors are that cute, so I ordered some replacements that are little birdhouses in pretty colors, and it just made me realize, oh, this is going to be a thing with a lot of really popular games that if you're giving a gift to somebody who you know really likes a game, go poke around and see if you can find different replacements or upgrades or things that are like... I don't know. So storage was another big one, because this game does have so many pieces that you can get different ways of storing things either when you're playing or when you're not playing, so just a whole new world of opportunities opened up to me of sort of the fan art of board games.

Sally: That's so awesome, that's really cool. And it makes me think that maybe someone has done the same for Clue, and so heads up to anyone who's listening to this who's going to buy me a gift this year, definitely take Rachel's recommendation and look into some Clue stuff. Would you describe Wingspan, just briefly, so people -- because I want to know and also maybe people will want to check it out.

Rachel: Yes, so Wingspan is a game created by Elizabeth Hargrave, who spent years developing this game. And it's described as an engine building game, which means that you take steps to sort of build an efficient model, for lack of a better word, on the board that then you kind of run through each turn. So you draw cards and then you place them in a way on the board that when you lay eggs on a certain bird, then as you're doing that, you get to take more food from the bird feeder. The core idea is that you are curating aviaries and there's different kinds, it's like wetlands, grasslands and forest, and so you draw bird cards and they can live in the three different habitats, or some can live in multiple. But to play them on the board, you have to have food and the certain kinds, because there's five different kinds that they take, and once you put them on the board, then you want to lay eggs on them, there's all these different ways to score points, it's played over four rounds. I will say that it has a fairly steep learning curve, we took it to the Catskills with us. And I think that was a helpful way to learn it, because it was really like, "We're here, this is what we're doing." I recommend starting with the YouTube video first, that gives you an overview of it. And then we just played for two hours straight the first night. Every time we realized we had made a mistake, we would start over, which I felt like was a fairly helpful way of doing it because it kind of forced us to go through the whole thing again, but we have the directions out the entire time we were playing to begin with, and I know that might make it sound like it's not very fun, but it was still fun to be learning. And I don't think it's actually that hard, kids and families play this game. I also think if you're more into games that might be a little bit more intuitive, but as somebody who doesn't really play tabletop games, it felt very foreign to me. So if you're playing Settlers of Catan or something like that, you probably are going to have a little bit more knowledge of this stuff. But it is a little complicated to begin with, and now that I've learned it I can't remember not knowing it. You'll pick it up and it'll be fine. But yeah, it's really gentle. I can link to this really good Slate article that I read about it that kind of sold me on it to begin with, because it's all about how it's cooperative--

Sally: I was actually going to ask you, is it competitive or cooperative?

Rachel: It is definitely cooperative. It's still lightly competitive, but a lot of things, you'll have the choice to take a lot of actions that benefit you, but in doing so, you benefit somebody else, and you kind of have to decide if you want to do that, and very often you will do that. So my girlfriend and I are kind of competitive about it, we like seeing who won. But there is something about how each player has their own map that they're playing on, that it is ultimately like you're playing with yourself in that sense, it feels like you're kind of working through it yourself. And so at the end of the game, when you're totalling up the points to see who won, you might not know for starters because it is like, you hope your strategy benefited you, but it's hard to keep track of all these points the whole time. But also it's such a pleasure to play that it kind of feels like it doesn't matter at the end, so I don't know, I'm really enjoying that aspect of it.

Sally: That sounds awesome, that sounds like exactly the kind of game that my partner and I are always looking for but never find. I've definitely tried. I've gone out and bought a lot of games that the learning curve has been so steep that it's like either the game ends or our relationship ends, even just trying to learn it. But I feel like watching a YouTube video, knowing that you're not sitting down and five minutes later you're in the thick of the game, it's like the first adventure is learning to play together, that actually sounds really doable.

Rachel: Yeah, I think that's a good way of thinking about it. And also, it's scientifically accurate, which it's gotten a lot of praise for, that there's 179 bird cards that are beautifully illustrated, they have little fun facts about the birds. But also, when you play them on the board and you put them into the right habitat, that maps to the habitat that they have in real life, the food that they eat maps to roughly what they eat in real life, the amount of eggs that you can lay on each bird. It's not like a one-to-one comparison, but birds that lay very few eggs, it's proportionate within the game. So there's a really high attention to detail. It is sort of mind blowing to me, the amount of work that went into creating this game, both at the ideation level and then the actual making all of these little bits and pieces to make it all come together. Within two days, I had already ordered the expansion pack and I got the Oceania version, which is incredible, the bird cards are so beautiful because it's all Australian birds and they put American birds to shame. They've got incredible names, they're so colorful, they're so beautiful. I'm obsessed.

Sally: Our birds suck, trash bag American birds.

Rachel: Yeah, it really is humbling to realize what other birds exist around the world. But yeah, so my secondary endorsement is for Wingspan. Which might be a good game for a partner to come up with the idea of we'll play this together or with family or that kind of thing. I wouldn't give it to somebody who doesn't have a lot of patience for learning new things, I don't know that they would like it, but I do think there's a lot of people who probably listen to this podcast who would be into it.

Sally: Totally. I'm really excited because Wingspan is one of those games that, this is a gateway to role-playing games. Because it's like you have your Monopolys and your Sorrys, and your Clues, and those are just sort of board games, you roll, you move the thing. And then there's these sort of next level games with a lot more moving parts and moving pieces that you kind of connect to in emotional and spiritual ways, and I feel like that is the bridge between just good old-fashioned board games and role playing games. So I feel like you're dipping your toes lightly into a part of my world and I'm really excited about it.

Rachel: Definitely. Also, I should say that Elizabeth Hargraves has another game that's already out that is about butterflies that I think is kind of similar in vibe, that's supposed to be good, but I've joined the Facebook group, which is a great resource. I'm then on the subreddit and every single day there's people like, "What other games should I try if I like this one." And so it's both great for getting recommendations, but it's also clear that this is definitely turning people into gamers and also maybe birders, it sounds like. Since starting this game, I'm even more aware of birds around me and I'm like, "Oh, is that a sparrow, because it sure looks like the one on the card."

Sally: Oh my God. That's amazing, I love it.

Rachel: Yeah, it's great. It's a really lovely game. I think the Slate article is worth the read, because it talks about how many women it's brought into gaming and just sort of the nature and the gentle aspect of it that I think has made it a huge hit.

Sally: That's awesome. We'll definitely link to that Slate article in the show notes.

Rachel: Okay, I have just gone on and on, my one recommendation.

Sally: Yeah, but it was great and I loved it.

Rachel: Wonderful. We should also just do a separate board games or just--

Sally: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel: Because I think that now that I've done half of that episode here, but we should follow up because I got some new games en route as we speak, so.

Sally: Hell yeah.

Rachel: Amazing. All right, so that's enough about game-related bits and pieces. Sally, what's your first recommendation?

Sally: So my first recommendation is to check out The Papi Shop, which is at holapapi.com, of course we'll link to it in the show notes. This is art and apparel and trinkets with designs and illustrations by John Paul Brammer, who is a really awesome writer and Twitter follow and is also incredibly funny, just like a quintuple threat of talent, and his art is -- I have one of his prints hanging in my office. His art is really interesting. It's really lots of cool, bright colors, lots of interesting... how does one describe art? I don't want to just tell you what the pictures are of, but that thing of like, you look at something and it makes you feel feelings and think thoughts, I would say that's what his prints do. I have a print called Sunrise in San Miguel, and it's a big cactus in the foreground, and right next to it, kind of a purple desert plant, and then right behind it, a beautiful blue house with a black cat sitting on top of it, and it's all this very pinky, purple shades as well. Just really, really beautiful, interesting stuff. It's not -- you know how sometimes Rachel, you go to IKEA or Bed Bath and Beyond or you look around Etsy, and it seems like they all get their prints from the same dispensary?

Rachel: Yeah. [Laughs] yes.

Sally: This is not that. This is like--

Rachel: Agree.

Sally: I feel like definitely, if you give someone a print that John Paul Brammer created, it will be something that the person doesn't have anything like it.

Rachel: I think that's right. Yeah.

Sally: Same also with shirts and hoodies and stuff.

Rachel: Yeah, this is a great rec. We should also plug his book, Hola Papi, it's great. He is the only, no disrespect to anyone present, but he's the best Twitter follow, and if he was the only person on Twitter, that would be fine. He's great on Twitter, his book is lovely, and yeah, his art is wonderful. And I hadn't thought of this as a gift, and once you put it in the doc, I was like, "That's genius, yeah, I'm going to do that." Good. Wonderful idea.

Sally: Offence taken.

Rachel: I know. I'm sorry.

Sally: No, it's okay. It's actually, it's right. It's the correct take. He's definitely one of five people worth following on Twitter. I don't know who the other four are, just placeholders, because they're probably out there.

Rachel: Yeah, sure. By sheer numbers, there has to be four others, but--

Sally: But yeah, great art, great book, great. He has a newsletter which is free, which is awesome. So get involved with all of that stuff.

Rachel: Rad.

Sally: Rachel, what is your second pick?

Rachel: My second pick, maybe something I've talked about on the show before indirectly, but that is custom airbrush t-shirts. I have a go-to guy, but you could get them from probably multiple sellers on Etsy. So think of like the t-shirts you might have gotten at the mall or the boardwalk in the '80s and '90s. I don't know where you'd find one of those in person now, but you can get kind of anything done on a t-shirt. So I first came to this when my girlfriend got them for us for my birthday last year, for my first pandemic birthday, and since then we've gotten a few more, we've gifted them to friends. So for Terry's 30th birthday, we sent her one because she had said she wanted one and then we got them for ourselves, and it was a cute way to celebrate long distance. But over the summer when my family was visiting, we were making plans to go to a Mets game, so I had custom Mets fan t-shirts made for my girlfriend and me to wear to the game. And they were on the pricier side because it was a custom design, so I didn't get one for my mom, and she was so disappointed, she loved it so much, and I was like, "Goddamn." My girlfriend was like, "You should have gotten one for your mom, come on now," and I just wasn't thinking. But it really is just a crowd pleaser. So you can get the person's name, you can get a theme for the holiday or for something that they like. There's just so many options and they're really receptive to feedback. So if you're like, "Okay, I want the colors from this one, but the art from that one," and you kind of mix and match and they're really helpful. And when I wore mine to the Mets game, I got so many compliments from people who were there, so if you do have a new sports enthusiast in your life, that might be a good gift for them, but even if not, I think it's a really fun one.

Sally: That's awesome. Yeah, this might be a gift I get myself because as I've complained to you many times over text, one of the downsides of the Philadelphia 76ers is that their uniforms are red, white and blue, and they're called the 76ers, it's way too much Americana for me, and so a lot of their merch reflects that. And so maybe it's time I just do my own thing and I just lean into the air brush shirt thing.

Rachel: I think that's a great idea. For whatever reason, the shirts are fairly comfortable. I wear mine a lot when I'm just around the house or going and doing errands. They're just really, really good t-shirts. And I think the t-shirts are usually like $23, so a good price and a one-of-a-kind gift.

Sally: Hell, yeah. Okay, that's great. I love it.

Rachel: All right, what's your next one, Sally?

Sally: My next one, I feel a little bit silly recommending this, it feels like it... Whatever. I'll just let it speak for itself, but I will say I feel a little embarrassed recommending it. But temporary tattoos from Inkbox. Actually temporary tattoos from anywhere, but Inkbox is where I just ordered some from. They have cool fun designs, and I think legitimately sort of interesting art to get a temporary tattoo of, and they last a couple of weeks and they look really nice, high quality. But the thing specifically that I want to mention is that you can get custom temporary tattoos made. So I got a handful for me and my cousins, and because they don't know this, but they're all going to be wearing temporary tattoos that match each other when we see each other in a couple of weeks.

Rachel: Cute.

Sally: Yeah, and it's just a cute fun thing. I don't know that these are inexpensive enough to be a stocking stuffer because they're not the ones that you -- they're more expensive than when you go to a cute boutique and they have those temporary tattoos that are off the shelf.

Rachel: Yeah.

Sally: These are a little bit more bespoke. But I think they make a cool, interesting, thoughtful little thing to give someone.

Rachel: Yeah, I think that's great. I'm going to check out Inkbox, which I'd never heard of, but I'm looking at their homepage and one of their categories is Not Safe For Work, and I'm intrigued by that. But yeah, I think that tattoos -- or, sorry, I think that temporary tattoos are a very fun little novelty that a lot of people really like.

Sally: They're really fun. And you can search by vibes, that's one of the things that kind of got me is you can search by trippy, dark, self or love, dainty, not safe for work, et cetera, and I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I feel like this is a temporary tattoo shop with me in mind.

Rachel: That's perfect.

Sally: And what about you, Rachel? What's your next one?

Rachel: Okay. So kind of sticking with the theme of sports, which again, this is now a sports podcast, sorry, my next rec is vintage sports gear or pennants or merch or anything to that effect. But if you've got somebody in your life who really likes sports, maybe a new fan, maybe they have for a really long time, or if they are really big fans of the college that they went to, a lot of times you can poke around on eBay and find cool '90s sports gear, because I think the '90s was a really, really incredible era of sports merch. So recently, my girlfriend got herself a sweatshirt from her college, it's so great, it just is incredible art, and it's got that sort of puffy texture that I feel like was iconic in the '90s. And then she got me one that is a Michigan State 1988 Rose Bowl Champion sweatshirt that is just so... the art is incredible. It's that same style, or it's kind of thick and puffy. I wore it over the weekend and just got so many compliments on it, and it's in really good condition. So just poke around and see what you can find. There's also posters and books and pennants and just any number of things, but I think once you have a team to start with, you can find a lot of stuff that would probably surprise you.

Sally: That's awesome. Yeah, in my long extended search to find Sixers things I wanted to wear, I discovered a bunch of sites that make merch that is either retro-looking or just sort of interesting and different and not the standard stuff that you would buy at the stadium. And I've never, ever in my life worn anything from one of my alma maters, but there was a UConn Huskies sweatshirt with this really sassy Husky, remember Rachel, I sent it to you?

Rachel: Okay, I think it's probably very similar to the one that my girlfriend got with a very sassy, maybe wolf on it. It looks like a cool animal. You know what I mean?

Sally: Right?

Rachel: Yeah.

Sally: Yeah. I think there might just be like a whole line of sports merch with sassy mascots.

Rachel: Yeah, I think that was definitely a thing for a while.

Sally: Yeah, totally. So yeah, that's great. I love that. That's a great recommendation.

Rachel: Amazing. All right, what's your next one?

Sally: My next one is gifting a subscription to an awesome newsletter. I don't know if this is a thing that people who aren't in media think about or care about as much as we do. Well, let me not overstate how much I care about it, but I just mean that it's present in our everyday lives in a way that I don't know if it is for a lot of other people, but that can't be right, because regular people read newsletters. Anyway, the point is, I just started subscribing to this one called Good Morning, It's Basketball, which for $5 a month, you get a daily newsletter breaking down interesting things that have just happened in basketball, pro-basketball, and this writer's thoughts, and it's really fun, it's relatively bite size, and I think that would be a great gift for someone who is into basketball. And then I asked on Twitter what people's favorite newsletters were that they pay for, and I got a couple of recommendations that I looked into and they seem awesome. So I just want to mention them. One is called Fran's Joy Digest which is a newsletter from Fran Tirado, and it has their picks of things they're thinking about and into in the moment, and it's just great, and--

Rachel: Yeah, I actually pay for this one.

Sally: Oh, you do? Okay.

Rachel: Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a subscriber.

Sally: Great, yeah, I might become a subscriber. There's one called Numlock News, which I didn't understand. Someone recommended it to me and I didn't understand what it was, and then once I understood it, I was like, "This is the coolest thing ever." What this newsletter is basically is every day you got a newsletter with five or six paragraphs in it, and each paragraph goes into some of the numbers behind a recent news story. So just as an example, the one this morning is called Shipwrecks, Wilson and Robots. And so here's one of the little paragraphs. "In June, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association designated a 962-square-mile chunk of Lake Michigan as a National Marine Sanctuary. It's known to be home to a bunch of shipwrecks, including that of the SS Wisconsin, and the discovery of some 41 shipwrecks nominated to the National Register of Historic Places." And then there's a link to the article in Scientific American about the discovery of these shipwrecks in this main sanctuary. That's it. That's the newsletter.

Rachel: Amazing.

Sally: Okay, I wasn't sure if it made sense. So yeah, so basically links to news stories with a little bit more background on the numbers in the stories, and it's kind of weird and specific, but I just think really fun and interesting, and if you're the kind of person who enjoys a sampling of -- if you'd like to sample the random fact platter, the random fact buffet, I think you'll enjoy this.

Rachel: Nice. That sounds great. I think that this is a really good suggestion because lots of people want to subscribe to newsletters and support their favorite people or want to get -- most paid ones, you're getting access to special content that other people aren't, so it's a nice sort of small gift that I think that a lot of people would really like.

Sally: Totally. And I'm not going to -- I have a couple of recommendations, I won't go into detail because it's enough, but I'll link to the ones that were all recommended in the show notes and you can check those out.

Rachel: Cool. All right, Sally, so we've shared some good recs of our own, I think now is a great time to transition to listener recommendations and some of their wonderful gifting ideas. So, shall we?

Sally: Yes. Thank you to everyone who sent us your ideas, you're all incredibly thoughtful gift givers, and I would like to -- one of these days, we obviously need to do an Oh I Like That Secret Snowflake.

Rachel: Yes, or snow person or something else non-denominational and gender-neutral.

Sally: Exactly, Secret Snow Bank. Okay, so our first set of recommendations are from Michelle, who says, "In general, I like to get a lot of mileage out of my purchases, so I try to shop local, independent, from creators of color and/or who are LGBTQI+ whenever I can."

Rachel: Michelle is an amazing gift recommender, I just want to say that. There are no winners here, but Michelle really gave us a lot of great recs, and I just want to give props because this is a really impressive list. So Sally, you want to read the first one?

Sally: Yeah, so astrology workshops or readings, and then Michelle provided some examples which we'll link to in the show notes. Also, tarot workshops or readings, and I think these are great. I have gifted these. Well, my partner was like, "Please, for my birthday, get me a reading," so it wasn't really my brilliant idea, it was hers. But it went over so damn well. And I think if you find the right person, which there are so many people doing these kinds of things, you can easily, and it's a really meaningful gift to give.

Rachel: Yeah, I think this is so great. You might also be able to find somebody who can do a deep dive on the person's birth chart or something like that, so it doesn't necessarily have to be a live interactive thing, but just dig around in this area. I think there's a lot. It's really right for good gift ideas. The next one I also love is, again, from Michelle, portrait or photography session. So basically, instead of just waiting until an engagement or a wedding to get good photos of yourself or the person can get a picture of themselves, book a portrait session on their behalf, which I think is so smart because you can usually get these for a few hundred dollars for an hour, which is kind of all you need when it's just portraits of you, but whether they want just a photo capturing them looking hot or they want new headshots or they just hate every photo of them, and you feel like they just need to set aside some time to have a great hair day and go in really feeling themselves, I just think this is such a good idea.

Sally: I agree, and this makes me realize that I've been using the same headshot, it's not even a headshot, but it's like three jobs ago, a photographer I worked with just snapped a candid shot that was a really good photo of me. It's from 2014, so it's safe to say it's incredibly outdated, but I still use it for everything. So I think this can be used for so many different occasions and things. So I love this.

Rachel: Yeah, agree.

Sally: Okay, Michelle's next recommendation is a cookbook plus related food items or ingredients or tools and/or a donation to a food-related cause. So Michelle says, "Another related idea is pairing with the physical or virtual gift card to a local restaurant. Last year, I gifted my brother a rice cooker, a Vietnamese cookbook, and donated to a food bank in his name. In the past, I bought my partner a Japanese cookbook and a dinner date at a fancy Japanese restaurant in NYC where we live. There are so many great cooks and chefs of color producing beautiful and useful cookbooks." This is like a very creative, cool gift.

Rachel: So good. I know that last year, I think we did talk about pairing two food things together is one of my go-tos, like getting a cookbook and then something to go with it that feels like on theme, but I think this recommendation takes it to the next level. I think the idea to donate in their name is so wonderful. I also wanted to add an idea of my own to this, which is local restaurant merch or cookbooks from local restaurants. So a lot of people got into restaurant merch during the pandemic. A lot of those places are still doing merch, so you can get a really cool original shirt or a mug or whatever the case may be, or just get them if the restaurant has produced a cookbook, buy it, and it's a nice way to -- you could commemorate a really nice date that you had there or a really nice meal that you had together, or just like, you know that they love this restaurant and this is a way to just bring some of that home with you. I think that there's so much to be done here that I think this is a great recommendation.

Sally: I do too. This is awesome. This is like next-level gifting as far as I'm concerned.

Rachel: I agree. Okay, the next recommendation from Michelle is a recommendation after my own heart because it's super practical, and that is a headlamp and battery. So a headlamp like you would wear camping or, I don't know, spelunking, that kind of a headlamp, and then the batteries to go with it. Michelle wrote, "So practical, even for those not outdoorsy, you never know when you'll need it, especially given earlier sunsets and seemingly increasing frequency of climate disasters and power outages," which is a sad but true fact. Michelle said, "A simpler one is around $30, but the range extends to fancy and expensive." I think this is really fun. It's not for everyone, but I think you know, if you're listening to this, who in your life would love a headlamp, and I think it's just, be a little bit weird, be a little bit willing to try things that are out of the ordinary. I recently bought, I wanted a headlamp for when I was knitting because it gets dark and sometimes you need some extra lighting. And I was like, "Well, I don't really want a headlamp," so I found a neck lamp. I was like, "What's a book light you can wear?" So there's lots of variations on this, but if the person is a hobbyist and is doing things at 4:00 PM when it's dark now, they might actually really appreciate having some kind of wearable light that they can use. But yeah, I just, I love a practical gift. I think this is so fun.

Sally: Yeah, that's really awesome. And I agree, this is the season to give people light emitting things for gifts because the thing about winter, particularly in the northeast, is that I feel like a dark falls that cannot be penetrated by a single lamp or like even a few different lamps, I just feel like you need to be wearing a light to really penetrate the darkness. It feels so thick.

Rachel: Great. I also think this would be a really good gift for the right kind of kid. I think that they would fucking love this. So more, just, this is a great gift. But I digress. Let's keep it moving.

Sally: Okay, the next suggestion is a feminist book subscription, and Michelle linked to Cafe con Libros BK, which is a bookstore in Brooklyn, and they basically have a monthly subscription for intersectional feminist books, and there's a few different categories. You can get the Women of Color Book Club Pick, the romance one, there's subscriptions for young adults, middle grades, budding feminist children's books, baby feminists. So kind of like whatever your intersectional feminist taste is when it comes to literature. And a lot of things call themselves feminists and when you look, it's kind of an annoying neo-liberal feminism. Apologies to any neo-liberal feminists we have listening or any centrists. And so I took a look and did some very light vetting and was very pleased to see the picks here. So this is a really cool thing, I think, to give to the intersectional feminists in your life.

Rachel: Yeah, especially a younger one who maybe can't afford to buy a lot of books for themselves, I'm imagining like teens, college students, it seems like it would be a really good gift.

Sally: I agree.

Rachel: Yeah. All right, Michelle, well done. Thank you for your service to Oh I Like That, with your amazing gift recs. So our next recommendation is from Maggie, who had a gift recommendation that I think we both really liked for reasons that will become obvious in a second. And Maggie wrote "My best gifting tip is to check out your local hardware store. The ones in my area, shoutout to the local Ace Hardwares in Atlanta, tend to have great gifty items like fun socks, candles, pots for plants and kitchen gadgets, in addition to your more standard tools, paint, et cetera, I guess could be a gift too. Depending on the store, there's also a good chance that they sell locally-made stuff in your area." Which, okay, as we just said, where are you going to get your headlamp? At the local hardware store. What do we love? Practical gifts. I think this is really smart. You said, Sally, when we were talking about that, like tools can also be a great gift, so don't discount that. But just a really creative recommendation that I think is really smart.

Sally: Yeah, totally. Yeah I mean I think there are people who don't have a set of tools yet, and I feel like it's a must, a toolbox, toolset, whatever. And a lot of hardware have these baby's first tool sets and I think that makes a great gift.

Rachel: Yeah, I think you could also probably put together a nice bundle by getting different, I don't know. We have a tool box that has a bunch of different types of screws and drywall anchors and all these kinds of things that it's so nice to just open and be like, "Oh yeah, we do have wood glue, we do have all these things. I don't actually have to go out and get it." So even if they have the tools they need, it might be nice to supplement that with other just implements and little bits and pieces that you find yourself needing a lot when you are a person in the world who lives in a home. So definitely a great tip that I think I'm going to take advantage of this year.

Sally: Nice. Okay, so next up, we have a recommendation from Brian who says, "One of my favorite gifts to give is something I use everyday: Microfiber cleaning cloths from Declan. Several years ago, I bought a couple on a whim. Not only was the cloth super soft and effective at cleaning my smudgy glasses, but they look very cool. They come in all sorts of super cute and fun artistic patterns and colors. Most of them are made like pocket squares and handkerchiefs. They also work great on touch screens and cameras, so they're a great gift for anyone." Yeah, so these are great. I went to the website and I was checking them out. Another great practical gift, but this one has a little extra something-something because they're really cute, like really cute. I think you could probably wear a bunch of these as pocket squares.

Rachel: Yeah, I think this is such a good gift. I am trying to get better about cleaning my phone screen because sometimes it catches the light and I'm like, "Wow, this is a disgusting device that I keep touching every day with my grubby little fingers." And with glasses, you really can't use just anything on them. We've all tried to wipe them on our shirt and then been like, "Well, that just made things worse." So I think if you have a glasses wearer in your life, I think this is a really good idea. And I think Brian also said that they often go on sale and so he'll stock up so he always has them. And I'm looking at the site right now, they already just have a sale section, so I might avail myself of some of these after we finish recording.

Sally: Yeah, same. I feel like this is the kind of thing that you can buy in bulk and they make great either stocking suffers or an addendum to a gift. And who among us doesn't have a really gross touch screen in our lives? Like my phone's gross, my Switch is gross, my computer monitor is gross, my glasses, you name it, it's gross. And I love this rec.

Rachel: Yeah this is a great one. Thanks for sending it, Brian. The next one is from Madeline, who suggested a couple of gifts, the first one is stickers. "Two of my favorite places to buy stickers are Femme Decal and the Carrot Top Paper Shop, both on Etsy. I like to buy stickers to mail to far away friends as a way to make a card or note more exciting." And then speaking of stickers, we also got a recommendation from a listener named Danielle, who said cards and stickers from Em & Friends, which is Emily McDowell, who's a very popular artist, I'm sure you'll recognize this art when you see it. It's their online shop. So I think this is really good. I've gotten into stickers in the past couple of years, both as a gift -- I think they're really good gift for teens. Teens like stickers, this is just an enduring fact, but also for adults, like they're fun to put on. So I don't know about you, Sally, but I used to be very sticker-shy, I would hoard them and not put them on anything, and now I'm just like, I put them on my laptop. Stickers are meant to be used. It's fine if I will say goodbye to them when I get rid of this work laptop and get more if I just did this. But also if you're a notebook keeper or a journaler, put them on your notebook. So that's also another way to personalize it, and if you're giving it to somebody, put a cute sticker on the cover.

Sally: Rachel, I will say one of the most significant surprises that I had this week was you showing me your laptop with stickers on it.

Rachel: Yeah. Okay, so I recently became a laptop sticker person or in the past year because working from home, my girlfriend and I have basically identical computers and we were often just not, we were just picking up the wrong one at a glance. And so I was like, "I'm just going to put some stickers on mine to make the distinction," and now I'm a laptop sticker person. And so I got my new work laptop and replaced one of the stickers from the laptop I sent back, I re-ordered a new one, but then I just went to my sticker file and pulled out a bunch that I had been saving for the right moment, and I was like, "This is the moment. It's part of my new work personality. I'm declaring it through the stickers." Again, no one's ever going to see them because I'm not going to the office, but I don't know, it's just something different. And I feel like one of the lessons of this pandemic is life is too short to not use things and enjoy things. So use your stickers, don't be precious about them, and also give them as gifts.

Sally: That's a great point, a great recommendation, and I feel like when I saw the stickers on your laptop, I feel like when you go to a friend's house for the first time and you see their little knick-knacks and their things, and you're like, "Oh, that's the kind of person this person is. Okay, cool. This is like more data." I feel like that's what happens when you see that someone puts stickers on their laptop. I just feel like it's more data about you as a person. I love seeing it.

Rachel: I think that's right. Thank you. All right, we have another recommendation from Madeline, which is treats that can be frozen and enjoyed later. "I love holiday treats, but I hate how it all comes at once. Treats that can be frozen and enjoyed later, cookie dough is a winner. It's a fun way to spread the sweetness out." Wonderful idea for if you're going to give edible gifts, if you're cooking and baking, or if you want to make something that's even more like, I don't know, a lasagne, make it so that they can freeze it, I think that's really, really smart.

Sally: Brilliant. Never would've thought of it. Totally makes a lot of sense. Great idea, thank you, Madeline. Wonderful. So next up from Darcy, this is a cool one. The recommendation is custom calligraphy return address stamps, and Darcy actually recommended a particular place to get them called Paper Pastries. Darcy says "I have been giving these stamps as gifts for almost a decade, and they're always a hit. I love the different calligraphy options, but the state-shaped ones are so cute too. Paired with a few ink pads, they make a great gift and they invariably result in a thank you note bearing the stamp." Oh, and Darcy also adds, "It looks like all orders must be placed by December 10th for holiday shopping this year."

Rachel: Nice.

Sally: Yeah, this is awesome. I actually ordered a custom stamp a few months ago from a store in Etsy that does stamps with 19th century gravestones on them [laughs] and it's fun and cool, and I'm really psyched to -- it just adds a little something extra when you're sending someone a letter or when you're paying a bill and you're like, "Why not share a little bit of my personality with this vendor?"

Rachel: I think this is a great one. I think it's especially nice for somebody who just moved into a new home, for example, but really anyone who has a decent amount of correspondence, or again, just has bills to pay, it's nice to have a way to make that feel a little bit more special.

Sally: I want to add something to the sticker conversation just really quickly. The nice thing about stickers is that I kind of forget that you can send things to people that aren't gifts. I exchange gifts during the holidays with a couple of my friends, and I don't -- a lot of people send cards. I don't really send cards. I'm sort of like, "Well, I don't know. If I'm not getting a gift, why bother?" which, don't ask me why I have that mindset. But when you get stickers and you throw them in a card, it's kind of halfway between doing nothing and getting a gift, which is really nice, actually. Yeah. I felt it was incredibly important for me to say that.

Rachel: It is. Yeah, I think that's like the perfect middle ground.

Sally: Okay, what's next, Rachel?

Rachel: So I absolutely love this next suggestion, which came from Jane via Instagram, and Jane writes, "If you are not looking to spend much money, markers, crayon, stickers (stickers again) sidewalk chalk colouring books, the Magic Water colouring books, Kid Street, all of this stuff is essentially disposable and most parents I know I don't like to buy it over and over again because it feels wasteful even though they aren't expensive. The kids like them and use them." I love this gift. My mom is an art teacher, and for the past, I don't know, for as long as I can remember, she would give my cousins who were much younger than I am, just big art kits, sort of replenishing art kits every year. Just, you know, those pristine marker boxes and whatever kind of crafty stuff and glue, and I think that Jane is totally right that parents don't really like to buy this stuff, but gosh, if you like making stuff, opening a box of unused fresh art supplies is so exciting. And I think this is one that you can kind of stock up on over time too, when things are on sale or whatever you're coming across here and there, just stock some extras away. But I think it's a really good recommendation that really doesn't get old.

Sally: Yeah, I totally agree, great, great rec.

Rachel: This also brings me to a related recommendation that we got from Rachel on Instagram who recommended Purl Soho, which is a knitting store in Manhattan. They put together different types of craft kits sort of around different types of crafting. So there are knitting kits, there's wool felting kits and just sort of making all these sorts of different things. I think there might be a friendship bracelet one. They come at a bunch of different price points. And so I think this is a really great idea, whether you get it from Purl Soho or you kind of create your own, or you look at your local art store, but I think keeping an eye out for crafting supplies and kits is a really nice recommendation.

Sally: Yeah, I love that. That's great. That's something that I really would have loved as a kid, which today I have no use for. Okay, our next one is from Casey, friend of the pod, and author of It's Probably Nothing. Casey says "A gift bundle from Lockwood, an Astoria-based boutique that is one of my favorite places to browse on a lazy Sunday afternoon. They started selling both curated and custom bundles of gifts over the pandemic. The curated ones are themed around something like Mother's Day, self-care, new baby, creativity, or you can do a custom bundle which includes thoughtfully selected gifts based on a quiz about the recipient's likes and dislikes. And you can pick the price point which corresponds to how much stuff you get in the box. The value of the products always seems to exceed the price you pick. Also, it's a woman-owned and LGBTQ-owned business that has been my happy place since it opened in 2013." So this sounds awesome. I poked around a little bit and I definitely saw a bunch of stuff that I would get for myself or give, and I really like the make your own bundle option, that's just delightful, and all this stuff looks really... fancy is not the right word, but bespoke almost.

Rachel: Yeah, it's got that bougie touch that makes a gift feel really nice. I think this is great. I think we both have established we love bundles and themed gifts, so I think shopping their custom bundles or going to whatever boutique is local to you and creating your own kind of based around a theme, I think is a really good starting point. It doesn't take much to make a gift feel a tiny bit more cohesive, it just is a little bit of planning. And I think that it really does make the whole thing feel more thoughtful and special.

Sally: Totally. And I think this whole make your own bundle situation is something that a lot of stores are doing since the pandemic, so I think it's a really nice thing to look into. Okay, well, I think that pretty much wraps it up. I feel like that's a lot of recommendations. You all have a lot of things to go out there and buy. So please go do that. And if you end up gifting this stuff, let us know how it all went over.

Rachel: Yes, we would love to hear about it, and keep sending us recs. If you share, tag us on stuff on Instagram or share it on Twitter, we'll try to retweet it so that people who are still shopping can still get access to more ideas and suggestions.

Sally: Yeah, exactly. So Rachel, let's talk about a nice thing to end on. Will you start us off?

Rachel: I will. So my nice thing to end on, I feel like I'm cheating because I'm using the same nice thing to end on that I used for our last episode, but I wanted to report back after my first piano lesson, which was yesterday, and it was great. I am so thrilled. It was kind of intimidating. Playing the piano is intimidating. My teacher was fantastic. And it was only 30 minutes. She had recommended a couple of books that I buy in advance, and we kind of worked through a couple of things. It was done remotely, was super easy to do remotely. She has her camera set up, so she has two cameras, one that she's looking at you, and then one that's above so you can see her keyboard. But it went really well. It was not easy, but I feel like I was picking things up which is, maybe it's designed that way, or maybe I'm just a prodigy, who's to say. But I'm really excited about it. I'm excited to do some practicing. And I will say that I'm really glad that I've learned to knit in the past year because every time I felt like, "Oh my God, this is too much, my hands will never work this way," I was like, "Remember when you started knitting and it felt so foreign and you couldn't do anything and now you can? And then even two weeks ago, remember when you were learning Wingspan and it felt like you'd never understand any of it?" it was helpful to know that I have -- I'm like, "No, I can learn new things. It's going to be okay." But I do think that it's good to let yourself be bad at things and struggle a little bit first. So I'm well on my way to being able to play a couple of Christmas songs, hopefully. Maybe just one, maybe I'm being over-ambitious, but really excited to continue on my piano journey.

Sally: I'm so excited. I love this report back. And if your nice thing to end on is piano-related for the next year, I will be thrilled. I think it's so cool that you're doing this. I feel like learning how to knit is brave, learning how to play Wingspan is braver, and learning how to play piano is bravest.

Rachel: Thank you. I appreciate that. [Laughs]

Sally: No, it's really awesome, and as adults, maybe this isn't true for everyone, but for me it's like you just get into your routine and you do your thing. Maybe you start watching basketball and you read a new newsletter, and that's cool, but that's like what you're doing is picking up these new skills and your brain is thinking in new ways, and I just think that that's really cool. So yeah.

Rachel: Amazing. Thank you for the show of support and fingers crossed that I will be burdening everyone in my life with my recitals going forward.

Sally: Yeah, I can't wait to see you play at the Kennedy Center, it's going to happen soon.

Rachel: [Laughs] I think so. All right, Sally, what is your nice thing to end on?

Sally: So my nice thing is that a friend of mine recently who lives about 20 minutes away in New Jersey, goes for a walk at sunrise every morning, he got a new job recently, and that job starts later in the day than his previous job, but he was already waking up early, and so he was like, "Why not just use the time that I'm used to being up at and go on a walk every morning?" Which I was already impressed with because I would be like, "Oh, I'll just keep getting up at that time and use the time to play video games," or something like that.

Rachel: Right.

Sally: But he's out here going on sunrise walks every day. So I invited myself to join him, and I got up early one morning, I made us coffee in my cool Fellows travel mugs, which I'll link to in the show notes, which were given to us as a gift and look like something out of episode of Black Mirror but are amazing travel mugs, and I drove out to New Jersey, and we wanted to sunrise walk. We went to kind of a creek in his neighborhood, and we walked all around this trail and it was like, man. I mean, you know about autumn, Rachel, you've heard of it.

Rachel: Yeah.

Sally: You know that there's different coloured leaves on the trees, and there's sun that streams in and the surface of water is glassy and beautiful, and there's animals and wildlife doing their thing. It was so delightful. And we just kind of walked around and we chatted a little bit and we stopped and we took pictures, and it was the most wonderful way to just start a day. Both doing something, doing some movement, seeing some beautiful natural things and being with a friend. And by the way, if my social life took place exclusively before 10:00 AM, that would actually be ideal for me, and it would be great. So it just kind of made me think, more hangs at dawn o'clock for me, please.

Rachel: That sounds amazing. So did you get there -- is it dark when you got there and then you saw the sunrise, or was it just roughly sunrise?

Sally: It was roughly sunrise. I actually had sort of envisioned we would start out when it was still a little dark, but lightning, but really the time I got there, it was dark when I drive over there, it had just gotten light when I arrived, and so it was more like the sun was already up, but it was getting higher as we went.

Rachel: Okay. I mean it's sort of neither here nor there, all of these things are really nice and you don't necessarily need to see the sun break over the horizon to get the experience of a sunrise walk. I was just curious.

Sally: Yeah well, actually, it's funny you've asked that because that was sort of -- I had expected the experience of the neon pink and orange sky while we're out there walking, but that actually happened on the drive over. Which was cool, but I'm going to pitch to him that we try moving it a little earlier, which, that might not be what it's about for him, so I don't know if that's going to work. But I think that would be lovely. So maybe that'll be in my future.

Rachel: It seems worth a shot, but if not, just doing it this way sounds great.

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